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The controversy surrounding the ranch reminds Aaron James, a UC Irvine philosophy professor and surfer, of an essential debate between Socrates and Callicles, a quarrel over the nature of desire and satisfaction. "Surfers have a deep sense of ebb and flow, which is part of life," says James, who wrote the book "Surfing with Sartre." "The flow periods are joyous and exciting because you spent a lot of time chasing those waves."

牧场周围的争议提醒加州大学的哲学教授和冲浪者亚伦詹姆斯谈论苏格拉底和卡利克里斯之间的一场重要辩论，这是一场关于欲望和满足的争吵。 “冲浪者有深深的低潮和流动感，这是生活的一部分，”詹姆斯说，他写了这本书“与萨特冲浪”。 “流动的时间是欢乐和令人兴奋的，因为你花了很多时间去追逐那些浪潮。”